Saturday, October 22, 2005

Forgiven!

Below is the transcript of the conversation that got me acquitted of atrocities to PKMN.NET!


Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Looks like I'll have to do this on my own.
Mike says:
I don't mean to be awkward, but I'm not doing it without James and Jeroen
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
All right, if they're active on the forums, you certainly can jolt them?
Mike says:
What time have you got until?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I have one hour.
Mike says:
So until 2?
Mike says:
*3
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Yes, your time. Here it's 9:15am.
Mike says:
If they're not back by half past...
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Then we'll have to set another time.
Mike says:
Yeah
Mike says:
I think Jeroen is back
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Oh well, one's better than nothing.

James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! has been added to the conversation.

Jeroen - has been added to the conversation.

Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
So they;re both on.
Mike says:
Hi
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
Hello
Jeroen - says:
Hi
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Good afternoon, you two.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
As promised, I'm going to stand for the TPL admins, since they refused to come.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
Why did you want to talk to us?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Because I want this TPL thing out of my head once and for all.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I admit, after seven long months, that I've been a bit of an idiot.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
how so?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Having followed TUH and Epyon on something they weren't about to stick to.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
They left the site. We had a domain and all, an SMF forum and all, and Epyon paid for a year of hosting.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
They never told me that it was something ephemeral. Made no indication of it.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
So....There's nothing left to say except that I now consider myself responsible for my actions, not TPL. I requested this conference to say that I'm very sorry for having followed such people.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
The admins have left.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
It seems to me that you're "apologising" for the mistake you made by even humouring TPL - I fail to see what this has to do with PUK
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I am apologising for the abuse and defamation I've dealt you for seven months.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I was wrong, I was led by a big baby to attack people that really knew how to moderate.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I can't believe I would rely on my emothions to commit such atrocities.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
why should we believe you're sincere, when last time you did something like this, you did the ever so clever thing of posting "It was all a big lie" on TPL
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I was blinded. Simple as that. I had just beeen controlled by emotions of hatred. I only attacked you and defected to TPL because of a fight that I had with my parents. It took me this long to admit that I was taking needless anger on everyone I loved.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I just let my emotions get the better of me, memories I should have just buried in the past.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
were they not happy with you socialising with all of the promiscuous girls?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Now where did you find that?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Are you refering to my forum team thing on my blog? No, that has nothing to do with it.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
It was a reference to your blog.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Okay, okay....I'm happy to know you've been reading it regularly....
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Look, TPL is dead. Epyon is left and he destroyed our IF forum and is about to let our subscription to our domain and site run out. The other admins have deserted as well. I'm the only one left and I'm incapable of carrying this on any longer, so why fight? It was all about Pokémon anyway....Foolish....
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
If TPL is dead then what are you trying to achieve by being here? It's not like we need to go after plagarism on a site that's essentially dead and empty
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
The site is done, I'm here to request a chance, crazy as I may be, to start anew.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I'm done with them. Big babies, the big ones of them.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
"In many discussions I compared James O’Malley,
PKMN.NET’s root admin, to Saddam Hussein because of
the uncanny similarity of egomanias harboured by the
two and scathingly attacked the administration,
gaining support as I went along."
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
That's in the past tense....
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
"I discussed the state
of the PKMN.NET forums under Te Strake’s control and
stated that he would be unfit for running a forum
directed to young generations if he was going to
communicate in the manner used in the reply."
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
And I had been fooled by your fake argument, remember....
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Jeroen found it first.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
That was all in the past, over a month ago!
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
so what you essentially want, is a webmaster, who in the past you likened to a man that murdered over 5000 Kurds at Hallabjah with poison gas, to unban you from his website, because you've suddenly "seen God", or something like that?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I don;t care what you do to me.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I'm just letting you know that I vow never to attack you again. I've larned my lesson and have come for my penalty to be given.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Even at this rate, a ban is more than I deserve.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
so, in a very round-about way, you are in fact, asking to be unbanned?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I'm not asking to be unbanned — but it would be nice — I just want your penalty read out.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
So what shall it be, then? What is my punishment for this?
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
What can we do beyond banning you, exactly?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I can still see the forums.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
I can't have you executed by firing squad, like Saddam would do
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
But you can report me to Rich, to Super Cheats.
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
for what, exactly?
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I mean, have a discussion, moderator review.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I'm a super mod for him, so if you gave him any information that may incriminate me he may want to have me reviewed.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
But I've been able to see the forums for seven months, I haven't gotten any 403 or other prompts.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
So, is there anything you want me to do to remediate this?
Jeroen - says:
If you've got a few more moments, we are currently discussiong this.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Go on then.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
I have fifteen minutes.
Jeroen - says:
That you can see the forums is due to some problems with dynamic IPs. It's, at least, a good sign that you didn't really register after that. We may be willing to 'officially' remove that ban, under a few conditions: 1) You stay away from moderating and related site discussions for some time, for hopefully obvious reasons; 2) The doubts/insights you have mentioned today are mentioned in an apology, explanation, or whatever you want to call or make it on your blog or another outlet where you've mentioned these things and it is allowed; and 3) You are willing to contribute in a well informed, useful and well written way to PKMN.NET and its forums in the future.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Moderating discussins on PKMN.NET?
Jeroen - says:
Yes
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Suggestions and criticisms?
Jeroen - says:
Pretty much the kind of discussions that started this months ago.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Yes. I shall send this transcript to my blog, then?
Jeroen - says:
If you wish
James - Buy Propagandhi's new album from me! I have two copies! says:
Oh, one more thing: get it into your head that PUK is NOT a country and we do NOT have "laws" and "legislation" - we have rules. I am NOT the executive, I am the Webmaster. Jeroen does NOT have legislative power, he is an administrator- and so on.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
Fine. I'll put it on my blog and finalise it later. Thank you ver much, Jeroen.
Crystal Walrein — It'll be over! says:
And thank you for your humour, James.

This was after I requested a conference with them the day before.

The staff of the Deoxys Group, myself included, will forever abandon any actions against other sites, in accordance with the agreement above. All older posts will remain, however, but I warn now that they are older and are not representative of sentiments of today.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

actionshark-

I read it, CW. Good to know this is all over.